Okay, they don't need any proof to swallow what it is they believe. And yet they deny that emphatically. So therefore they are in denial about something they have no clue of; that's not scientific.
So while they are espousing Atheism, they admit to being unscientific ( ipso facto), and therefore illogical to the Methods of Science. It's obviously important to them, many are here every single day preaching it.
They attribute logic to other things perhaps, but by definition they are irrational and faithful to their beliefs of God's existence.
I would not ask for logic from a people who are by definition wandering away from the very precepts they attest to, and yet living in the conflict of their own denial.
You cannot get a rational answer from such a person whose demeanor is set so deep in denial. They will rationalize their answers; some by avoiding the question, and some by denying the charge.
My favorite atheist contradiction is that they exist, but don't really have a valid explanation as to how or why. Even if you give them enough rope to accept their reason as to HOW they got here, ask them WHY? What is the meaning of life?
Most Christians can simply answer because God wanted a family. But WHY for atheists? What is the meaning of life to atheists?
John , regardless of how true or realistic those answers are.
tuberoot - while I am agnostic, and not a dedicated atheist, I can say that your view of atheists is quite misguided (though I was aware of that as soon as I read your "question"). I would absolutely love to believe that there is a heaven, that there is more to experience, after death...
...But there is zero evidence for it. In fact, the laws of nature kind of oppose the notion. So I just don't know, and I accept that I don't know. I have hopes, but I keep them realistic. I don't commit ideas to belief out of desperation, just because I like the way they sound.
Go to bed, Bible-thumper!! There's church tomorrow.
You really get off asking these questions, don't you? It's quite sad, really.
Anything we say here will be ridiculed or ignored by you, so there's no point in really giving you a serious answer. Yes, I am "avoiding the question" because to do otherwise would be pointless.
To the first answerer, it speaks volumes that you "needed" someone to put others down. It's sad that you need that to feel better about yourself.
You just made that up, didn't you?
Funny drivel.
*Okay, they don't need any proof to swallow what it is they believe. And yet they deny that emphatically. So therefore they are in denial about something they have no clue of; that's not scientific.
On the contrary, we don't believe because we have no proof. If there were proof, we would believe. Doing and not doing aren't the same sort of thing.
*So while they are espousing Atheism, they admit to being unscientific ( ipso facto), and therefore illogical to the Methods of Science. It's obviously important to them, many are here every single day preaching it.
Disproven in the previous statement. But we're 'preaching' reason so as to avoid a fundamentalist state, and to get the word out that religious thinking can be dangerous thinking.
The rest of it is based on the same faulty premise. Seriously, buddy, just take a step back. Stop believing in God and Christianity for six minutes while you digest the facts, and you'll see we're right.
Like atheists, you do not believe in the existence of Vishnu, Ganesh, Ra, Osiris, Zeus, Aphrodite, Cthulu, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Invisible Pink Unicorns. I don't either, but I place supreme faith in my Magic 8 Ball, and I expect that you should respect my faith. Let's run those Zarathustrians out of town, together!
That was an exceptional post! Thanks and God bless you for it!
This is serious business and i think Atheist need to reevaluate there moral compass.. They are very mean-spirited, evil and i might add rude..... Could you expect anything less, every breathe they take is a Sin.
Atheist contradictions? Well aren't you the pot calling the kettle black...and slandering anyone who isn't as blind and ignorant as you...how sad. Easier for you to mindlessly shoot your mouth off than to engage in a debate with any amount of substance, is it?
No proof? I hate to break it to you, but there's plenty of proof supporting evolution. Ignoring it (or more likely, claiming that it's impossible because you don't understand it) won't make it go away.
"In denial about something they have no clue of"...complete and utter gibberish. Stringing insulting words together does not a valid argument make, my friend.
Why don't you explain to me what these atheist contradictions are, and why you feel that your religion is one of such great virtue? Until you manage that, all you're doing is blathering.
Added: Oh? Tell me, was it difficult to put the shoe on the other foot, with your head that far up your @$$?
Rudy: Well, since someone finally bothered to post actual contradictions...
The first one you provided was not a contradiction. And as far as I can see, if what you meant to say was that they get angry at Christians for trying to convert them, then try to convert the Christians, there is fault on both sides, and the contradiction is by no means limited to atheists. After all, the Christians were the ones insisting that others believe as they do, in the first place. (Not that two wrongs make a right, I’m just saying that the offense in question is not limited to atheists.)
Not bothering to capitalize God’s nawander about definitionme does not compare to some of the spelling and grammar errors I’ve seen, more commonly from Christians than from atheists. Though to be fair, I have seen atheists who’ve made some rather atrocious errors, as well. Not surprisingly. It is as ignorant to say that you know there is no God as it is to say that you know there is one.
And if you’re not paying attention in science class, fine. Your loss. Yes, the Big Bang Theory is a theory. But unlike religion, it’s got evidence supporting it. That doesn’t make it a fact. Hell, I myself think they jumped the gun, on that one. It’s possible, but we don’t know nearly enough to say that that’s definitely how it happened. But like I said. Evidence. Real evidence. (Maybe all that not paying attention has rendered you unable to tell the difference between an educated guess and a random, irrational one.) That’s what science is all about. The search for truth. And next time you feel like criticizing it, try praying for light instead of using a light switch. Or pray yourself online, instead of turning on your computer. That’s the difference between science and religion. Science works.
Added: I see you've added more...well, now you're just getting ridiculous. The year is the year. It doesn't matter that it was based on religious beliefs. Some of us may not believe in Christianity, but that doesn't mean we don't believe in time. It's the year 2007. I can say that I believe the reason it is that year, is largely due to a myth, but that doesn't change the fact that our society has accepted it as the current year.
And Christmas? Don't make me laugh. You Christians stole that holiday from the pagans. There's plenty of debate about what time of the year Jesus was born, and it probably wasn't December 25. Ever wonder why Christmas and Easter are so close to the winter solstice, and vernal equinox, respectively? Pagan holidays. Until a bunch of Christians came along, and said, "We like what you're doing, we're going to steal it, and make it about Jesus." You've got no more right to celebrate it than any atheists. If you can take pagan holidays for whatever purpose you want, we can just as well use the same holidays for our own purposes. Unless you celebrate Christmas without decorating a tree or buying gifts, I wouldn't start to talk about other people contradicting themselves.
I'd take a look in the mirror, before talking about hypocrisy.
Try switching on the other brain cell
Atheism like Theism is a belief which needs no justification nor have any justification.
I assume you are not a Christian, because there is little instruction. Jesus ask his disciples to teach all nations, not to convert everyone. Jesus also taught that when you encounter non belief, you simply more on.
Answer: Christians are followers of Christ; they teach what Jesus taught them. Jesus never criticize atheists, so why are you>
yet you still believe in a book where donkeys and burning bushes talk.....
Oh the irony!
Well, i would like some proof that supports the statements in this rant.
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"Are you sure you want to admit to being an Atheist after saying that?! lol"
I fail to grasp the meaning of that statement. I don't believe in god, therefore i am an atheist, it is as simple as that.
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"doesn't necessarily mean that they are ranting"
It still looks like a rant to me.
CAN'T YOU DO BETTER THEN THAT????
lamo
You nailed it. This is a great example of their circular and faulty thinking.
They deny each piece of scientific evidence for creation on the grounds that it can't be true in the face of the "overwhelming" evidence to the contrary. They do this with each piece independently, and then declare there is no scientific evidence for creation. This is the same argument they use to keep a lot of it out of scientific journals (controlled by evolutionists) and then they claim we never publish anything in scientific journals.
Another one, I love how they view Creation as appealing to the miraculous, but then they believe in the Big Bang..with....no...apparent....cause? They never answer the question of what caused it. Their beliefs are require a LOT more faith in the miraculous than Creation does.
Wow, you're logic and reasoning are so bad they aren't even wrong. Congrats!
Here's another one for you: You are highly defensive. Your rebuttal? Deny it and prove me right. Admit it and I'm still right.
Here we go again.What is logical and rational about believing in gods,god,or goddesses?You fail to give us one scintilla of evidence for even a theory of deity or deities. How is that scientific? Please tell us about the scientific method and how it applies to proving there is a supreme being.
I have to agree with Phoenix. Let's see you prove him wrong.
Hateful atheist? Wow ,your question/rant was hateful!
Whaaa? Isn't this the same thing Atheist's say about Christian contradictions?
I haven't seen a rational answer from a Christian when face with the same question.
You entire post is based on the false assumption there is a scientific reason to consider the belief in a higher power:
The problem is, there is no scientific reason whatsoever to believe in a higher power.
Science explains the physical Universe around us. Faith in religion explains the existence of beings that are not part of the physical Universe.
Since the existence of God can never be proved scientifically, God can only exist in the minds of the religious who choose to embrace such beliefs.
The onus is not on me to prove God doesn't exist. The onus is on you to prove such a mythical being exist, since it is beyond the ability for science to answer.
Using your logwander about definitionic:
I can claim mole people live underneath my house and even though I cannot prove their existence scientifically, it would be up to everyone to prove they don't exist, simply because I make the claim.
Simply claiming the existence of something, doesn't make it fact. You need to provide empirical evidence to prove it's existence.
I find that some atheists actually really understand what the Bible is saying better than some Christians do and still refuse to accept what it says to be one of the greatest contradiction.
You're getting as bad as chosen by grace, just a thoughtless troll ranting on and on.
As to your question it is so fallacious it is not worth answering.
Was your reasoning inspired by God? It could be an addendum to the Bible itself! Perhaps you should wear a potato sack and walk around saying you are the new messiah.
Please find a contradiction in this:
Ethics is the branch of philosophy that studies the good. Once you know what the good is, you can form a moral code.
Religious ethics teaches that God tells us what the good is. You are moral if you follow what God tells you, even if it is irrational or if it contradicts reality.
In a rational philosophy the good is defined as everything that helps you to live and improve your life, without damaging someone else's life.
From this concept you get a rational moral code. In this code of morality, evil is everything that impedes you to live or detracts from your living better. This is how a thief commits an evil action because it detracts from someone's life.
Reason is the only tool that allows us to distinguish the real from the unreal, the true from the false, the just from the unjust, and the moral from the immoral.
We know that bad men do evil. But for good men to do evil, it takes faith!
There is no logical contradiction to not believing the obvious lies of religions. It takes a huge amount of denial to actually read the bible or koran and then pretend its not nonsense.
There was another member of this forum who told me that he believed in evolution, and said that there was scientific proof that existed that suggests that we evolved from some sort of alien life form...he also stated that he wholeheartedly believes in ghosts, and also other life in outer-space! Well....you can only imagine what my response back to him was....I mean....my being a christian and all!! Poor lost soul ) :
It boggles the imagination why one would believe in ghosts, but yet have no belief in "life after death" in heaven!
They say that life came from non living matter. When I say life came from a rock makes no sense, they say I dont understand evolution. And, they never claimed that life came from a rock.
I move my hand in front of my face and look at it. I think, how did I do that? I have a brain with a bundle of nerves running from it to my hand. But I wanted to move my hand. This is odd, I don't understand. I'm just matter. I'm just made up of a bunch of molecules yet I have a will and I can make this body of mine do stuff.
How bizarre! I'm a piece of earth but I'm animated! Since when does dirt get up and animate itself?
I enjoy designing software. I often admire those engineers who create robotic bio limbs for those people who have lost a natural limb.
Those engineers are designing something. Its a design! However cool and slick their end product works, its nothing like the one that they are replacing that was designed by the capital "C" Creator.
Favorite contradictions? Hmmm, how about the one where they get angry at Christians and ATTEMPT to somehow take away their faith by preaching so called proofs that God does not exist. Oh, and their normal spelling of "God" (It is wrong everytime you forget the capital 'G'), yet they criticize how Christians, supposedly, spell everything wrong. Oh, oh, oh...how about the one that says that Christians do not pay attention to science classes, yet they do not realize that their Big Bang theory is just a theory. Hahahahaha. My ribs are aching. XD
Check out this guy:
A so called skeptical atheist, right? This is what he posted in response to a "Psychic reading" (The second response):
In general, every time they sign a check, or simply, write down the date (They do not believe in the year of our Lord). Oh, and I wonder what they do on Christmas. Next time I go to a store during the Christmas season, I'll come up with data that shows at least one atheist Christmas shopping.
Master Maverick: You're funny.
Nicely put, my brother in Christ.
Read some great news today in the paper. Atheists are always stating that since the appendix apparently has no function that God must make mistakes.
But a team of doctors and scientists has found its function! It is a "breeding factory" for beneficial bacteria that live in the intestine and help to digest food! And it offers a "safe-haven for these bacteria when illness strikes and wipes out all the rest of the colonies.
NOW HEAR THIS ATHEISTS:
GOD MAKES NO MISTAKES!
Thanks! I needed that!
A sister in Christ.
Brilliant. :) Watch 'em squirm.
lets see how many contradictions that will be in the answers, this should be interesting!
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